Spirituality & Motherhood Episode:15 Telling my business

[00:00:00] Peace and innumerable blessings. My name is Jeannette Lancien and welcome to the spirituality and motherhood podcast where we're going to explore different ways of honoring your spiritual path, spiritual gifts, your divine connection all while being a mama. My intention here is to support you in your spiritual path, by sharing the wisdom and experiences of other mothers who are on a path, just like you. 

[00:00:24] So, you know, you don't have to do it alone. I come to you as a mother of two boys ages four and seven, a psychic rootworker, hoodoo an herbalist and a tree talker, a tree talker, a flower whisper, whatever it is, them plants be talking ya'll. All right. So let's dig into this episode, this episode, I'm going to be telling my business, I'm going to share what's been going on with me. 

[00:00:59] Um, but you know, before we dive in, I guess some, some, what is it? Some, some cleaning items, some household items, whatever. So, um, Please follow me on Instagram at spirituality, underscore motherhood, underscore pod and hop in my DM'S. Just say hi and follow and just see what I'm into. I'm not going to , you know, flood your timeline with my shenanigans. 

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[00:02:16] Thank you for listening now. Let's kind of dive into this, this episode. 

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[00:02:30] So I don't know if I mentioned it, but I moved and I didn't move far.  Um, we bought a townhouse and we moved across the street. And I ever since my time in Portland, at some point I lived in Portland and it was a fabulous adventure. 

[00:02:51] Fabulous, fabulous adventure. Um, I have been very cognizant of the spirit and the energy of the space that we live in because I find that the spirit and the energy of the house or the apartment. Oftentimes plays a big role in my spiritual growth and development, as well as the growth and development of the children and how our family sits and whether our family is, you know, held in certain ways or not. 

[00:03:25] So, um, and we've done a great deal of moving since Portland. So it was interesting to move into this townhouse because this townhouse kind of came up in a way where I didn't expect it to come up. I didn't expect it. I didn't expect to be in France talking about, yeah, we gonna buy this. I didn't expect it, but it happened. 

[00:03:45] And you know, here we are. So, um, I am realizing that this beautiful space is teaching me a lot. And we've only been here. Like what, six weeks? One of the first things I've been taught by this space, um, is that. We are blessed. It was interesting when they were building the space. Cause it's a new build. One of the things that I would do is I would, um, I would go and make my offerings at the offering goodness. 

[00:04:16] I make my offerings at the crossroads and I would swing by where they were building this house. And I want to make offerings to the spirits of space and place to saying thank you. Thank you for allowing us to be here. Thank you for reeling us in. Thank you for letting us reside with you, right? 

[00:04:35] Thank you for allowing us in this community. And, and they were really receptive at first. And then they were like, okay, you need to, you need to calm down. So I calmed down and, um, Yeah, but we're here. One of the most interesting things that happened is, when we moved in my dad, my dad was a contractor when he was alive. 

[00:04:58] So I don't know everything about houses. I don't know everything about buildings. I don't, but, um, when there's a problem, I can recognize it. So when we first got into the building, I was like, there's issues with the foundation here. There's going to be some problems with the foundation in the long term. 

[00:05:17] Um, cause it the floor wasn't level and it tickled me, it tickled me as an American because, um, the floor needs to be level. It was a slant and there was some bumps, and certain things just weren't level in a way where I was like, so what did y'all, what did y'all do? 

[00:05:35] And like, um, noticing that nothing on the first floor was level and nothing on the second floor was level. And uh, you know, you can't really tear it up and be like, Hey, y'all got to level out this foundation. So, uh, yeah, the interesting thing is, we had bad rains, and we live on marshland. 

[00:05:58] So like, the Ground we'll only absorb but so much. And it was interesting to watch the houses around us have problems with water coming in and to see that we had none, we had no water coming in. It was interesting to have like, you know, the the houses around us do their check-in or whatever, like where they're going through the house and counting the things that aren't working so that the builder can hopefully fix them and blah, blah, blah, and have not that many things being wrong with the house just simple, easy fixes. 

[00:06:37] We still have a leaking toilet, but I think I'll get back to water in a second. Yeah, I'll, come back to water. So the issue is like, well, it's not an issue, but it's just an observation of, I think by being kind to the spirits of space and place, we still have them coming in to fix stuff, but it's not necessarily as crazy. 

[00:06:57]  Our house didn't flood. We didn't have water coming in and our space is not perfect, but it's not jacked up. So coming in and honoring the land and being kind to the spirits on the land, but also, you know, leaning into the ancestor, my helpful ancestors and realizing, I have ancestors who do construction. 

[00:07:19] This is what they did. They built houses, they built buildings, they, they did stuff. So. Realizing I'm in a situation that things are not nearly as bad as they could have been. Makes me very thankful and aware of how my helpful ancestors take care of me. Like my father, my father's father. I think my, yeah, like my other father, his father, my others. 

[00:07:47] Yeah. Anyway, my other, the whole point is There is some ancestral Negroes who handle construction and they showed up, they showed up for me and this house and the spirits of land showed up in this house and also having a conversation with water around, okay, you know, I'm not going to come in as long as you do this work because if I'm in here, I'm in here for this reason. 

[00:08:12] So if you have a problem with me in, in the house, and being in the house, this is what I'm communicating to you. And so far, we haven't had a problem water in the house. There's a leaking toilet, but the leaking toilet is, it's a slow, weeping leak. 

[00:08:26] It's very calm. And even upon talking to my neighbors and hearing some of the things that are going on. To this very day, I feel so blessed. I feel so blessed by spirits of space, spirits of place, and helpful ancestors.  

[00:08:43] So that's thing, number one, by just being in this space. Um, thing, number two, I, I have a wonderful friend and we were, chatting it up about this space and um, I was like, oh my God, I don't know what's going on with the foundation because if your foundation isn't right, your house ain't, right. 

[00:09:02] I'll be upstairs. I be This floor is. I be looking at the walls. I'm like these walls, they lumpy. And then my Spirit's like, oh Jesus, what's this gonna look like in 10 years? And, um, the irony is like, my friend was like, you know, this, this space, this place, you know, it was going to help you get to the root of a lot of your trauma. 

[00:09:27] It's going to help you get to the foundation. It's foundation's messed up and your foundation's messed up. And this is, this space is going to hold you as you heal which was an interesting thing to hear after, the last podcast episode, uh, I, you know, we talked with, Aleia McDaniel of, soul purpose sisterhood. 

[00:09:51] And we have a conversation around, generational healing with the ancestors and doing inner child work, having that, and then realizing, oh, okay My foundation, my, my foundation is messed up now I've, you know, there's inner child work to do. And then having a reading, with Mambo Liz Ruth (who) was interviewed before that and having her be like, yeah. 

[00:10:10] Your Maternal grandmother is like this trauma that you experienced needs to be healed. So I found it very interesting to come into a house where the foundation is not level and I'm doing, um, foundational work. I'm doing. 

[00:10:31] Intergenerational healing, which always seems to sound so sexy on Instagram. Like, Ooh, Ooh. Intergy no, I've been crying. 

[00:10:44] I've been secretly eating. It's, it's one thing to have my own pain, but it's another thing, to feel my pain and then feel the pain of my foremothers compounded in the pain that I'm feeling and know that, even though I'm crying in front of an ancestor altar, and I'm able to reach out to friends and cry to them that they might've not had anybody to cry to cause certain things you don't always share with other people, certain things, it wasn't safe to share. 

[00:11:16] And even if other people knew it does not mean that they were able to, or willing to help you. I feel like in many ways, I'm healing for myself, you know, they're helping me heal and, um, um, I'm helping them heal too, but the feeling of it is just so 

[00:11:37] it feels deep. It feels heavy and it feels very sad. It makes me sad that all I can do for my foremothers is cry and feel this pain. It makes me sad that, I can't take, you know, frying pans to people's heads and scald them with hot grease and beat the shit out of them. It makes me sad that, I couldn't shoot somebody when they were doing wrong because they shouldn't have gone through the terror and the pain that they did, no woman should have gone through the pain and the terror that these women have gone through. 

[00:12:18] And it's really hard to feel their pain on top of my own, while raising children and trying to keep somewhat of an even keel. Right. Cause it's really strange to, be processing deep grief, over my own childhood. And feeling, like be sort of threads that connect me and the trauma of ancestral mothers and be like, oh, I got to cut this off because I got to go out this house and pick these children up and then make dinner and then help with homework and then get it together to speak to people in French. 

[00:12:59] Like I it's going but Lord, it's rough 

[00:13:06] that's thing, number two, that's thing, number two in this house, like this house is holding space for inter generational healing and also realizing that trauma affects my parenting and the children. So in some ways, seeing the effects of the trauma on the children and feeling like. 

[00:13:25] Feeling like shit, feeling mad guilty because this trauma has been there and I was functioning out of it as parenting out of it, but I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't feel it. So just having more of an awareness of when I move from a space that's traumatized. When I move from a space that's unhealed within me and unhealed within the lineage. 

[00:13:55] And I put that on their children, which has been really hard, really hard because there's nothing. It's easy to say, I'm sorry, I got a little heated about that hot wheel being stuck on the vacuum cleaner. Mommy's had a rough day, let me calm down. Like, you know, that's that's one apology. 

[00:14:17] It's another policy to be like, oh yeah, I'm sorry, my mom was a violent narcissist who abused me. My mom is not the only one. There's abuse down the line. And I'm really cranky about it today. I haven't figured it out. Maybe after this podcast I will have figured out how to be like, I'm sorting through like my own personal stuff and intergenerational trauma with the people's picture, who's on the ledge over there and we're working and I'm a little cranky about it. 

[00:14:47] Maybe that's just the way they approach it. Hey, maybe that's it. But like, it's really something, right. It's really something to be doing with kids. And then also seeing how your blindness has manifested in the children. Cause you just did things. You just did things you passed on as S-h-i-t that you were not aware that you were passing on. 

[00:15:10] So it's been very interesting. Very painful. Lord Jesus, this house. Yeah. Okay. So the third thing about this house, goes back to a relationship with the land. I mentioned before, kind of I touched on the fact when we moved in, there was just a lot of rain and , they had put the seed down on the earth, but the grass had not grown yet. 

[00:15:37] And me being an American, I was twitching about that. And I was also thinking, yo, we got kids. The kids want to get out and play in the sunshine because we're coming from an apartment and we're not going to be able to play because it's muddy and there's no grass and this is just a little sad. 

[00:15:56] So we ended up putting up, um, a shed and the shed left big boot prints all over the, the yard. And so there was already, rocks in the soil and in all sorts of stuff. But the grass wasn't growing, and there was these big boot prints and I was just traumatized. 

[00:16:21] Cause I love plants. I love earth. And just looking out and seeing this barren landscape with big boot marks and lumpiness just broke my spirit. It did it, it broke my spirit because it just broke my spirit anyway. So luckily the children love dirt, so they would get out there with me and they would help me move around the dirt that we moved for the foundation of the 

[00:16:50] shed. And they would play out in the dirt. It was too cute and they would help me pick the rocks out of the yards. The rocks would be in a pile and try to even it out a little bit. They helped me water the grass, put down more grass seed. And now when I look out, I see 

[00:17:10] this lush green grass and this sweet little lawn that was seeed with love and with, with joy and play. And it's just, it's beautiful. And it reminds me, when we. 

[00:17:31] Cultivate the things that bring us joy with joy and with love. And when we choose to approach things with joy and love, even the funkiest situation kind of, it turns right. Cause that's what the children did. They just came out there and they loved on that earth. They were playing, they were, they were playing and now it's just green and luscious. 

[00:17:57] And beautiful and I feel so I feel deeply grateful for, for, for what's there and I feel deeply grateful for, what this yard has taught me. 

[00:18:14] Right. That's a lot. It's only been six weeks. Y'all it is only been six weeks. We're like in the third week of school. Jesus. And another thing this house has taught me. Right. I don't think I discussed it here, but I have a relationship with rodents rodents and I have a relationship like mice and rat. 

[00:18:36] In getting older, I've become less anxious about mouse and rat. And I've been able to heal, hear them more and understand what they..They bring up, um, when they pop up in my living space, Lord Jesus. And it's been interesting in this house because being in this townhouse, it's like, you know, the only time I ended up with rodents is when I'm with, um, Somebody, I ain't got no business being with or somebody who's not helpful for me. 

[00:19:14] And it was really weird noticing that. Well, I didn't notice that rat was like ,look Hoe. I was like, what? Word? That's the problem? They're like, yeah. Have you ever had them single? And you've lived in some places where we were around and I'm like, wait, that's true. Again, faulty foundation.. So, those are the lessons that I've learned living in this house a whole six weeks. I am very curious. See, what's next? Right? All right. Onto the next segment. We're going to talk about my current spiritual practice. 

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[00:19:59] All right. So y'all heard that last segment, right? You heard it, you were there with me. We had synchronized over the rodents and the foundation. So with an, with a not level foundation, it's been interesting to try to maintain a spiritual practice. It just has, it just has, because all the things I used to excitedly do, I don't have the energy no more to properly do, because I don't have the force. 

[00:20:29] I don't have the energy. I don't have the focus. I don't have the drive to love and be joyful and share that with spirit in the way, ways that I was doing before. And, um, it's made me sad because there's not enough sadness. It's made me very sad. I feel tore up and slightly guilty. I love sharing with spirit. 

[00:20:53] I love going to spend time with spirit. I love just hanging out with the local nature spirits and sharing stuff with them and going to Kiki and just, you know, going to the crossroads and seeing who's there today, you know, share a little Gin, share a little Henny, have a good time, have a good time. 

[00:21:13] But There , not a lot of sharing because, um, the foundation is not. Strong in my life. So it's been about fixing that. So my spiritual practice has been about being grateful to space in place, being grateful to community and doing an offering of incense in the morning, thanking the elements, thinking mother earth, pouring out water, keeping, an elemental altar, of course always, taking care of my helpful ancestors and prioritizing 

[00:21:46] them in some ways, because the more I'm in this house, the more I realize how much, how much they ride for me, how much they just show up. And even when I feel like I'm not being-- respectful is not the word because, I feel a lot of us were taught to respect our elders, but our elders weren't respecting us. 

[00:22:09] Our elders weren't loving us. Our elders were being abusive and trying to crush our spirits and respect and this whole thing about, you got to respect us. It's like, you ain't respecting me. You don't respect yourself. Cause I see you. I see you. You don't respect nothing. Goddammit. So how am I supposed to respect you? 

[00:22:25] You ain't teach me nothing about respect. Which is something that's been interesting because my cousin recently died and she's transitioned. She, on the other side, I had a situation and she rolled, like, she came up the box out the bat and she was like, she was laying up. 

[00:22:42] She's like, I see you. And I wish I'd seen you when I was alive. Because I'd helped you more. And she just came and she just rode, and she just took care of stuff . And it was just interesting for me to have a situation where I have some ancestors who are not necessarily helpful to me and have ancestors who are very helpful and they see me and they love me being like y'all need to get out of here. 

[00:23:08] And Jeanette, you need to tell them. So I say that to say, um, as I do this foundational work, I find myself shifting which ancestors I'm connecting with and how I'm connecting with them. And I find myself much more empowered to stand up to ancestors, who ain't helpful. Because not everybody could be helpful for you, especially if you not about staying in the same places of hurt and the pain and the frustration, just because they did it then mean you have to do it, but you also have to realize all of them, ain't going to be supportive and you doing that. 

[00:23:50] So yes, that's what needs to be said about the ancestor altar my relationship, my relationship to earth and earth spirits is changing too, I feel closer to earth. 

[00:24:08] I feel like I am hearing more. I feel like I'm understanding more and receiving guidance much more clearly. And it's nice. It's awesome. I love it. And even though I want to share more with earth. I want to give more earth is like calm yourself. There's a snail, slow down. 

[00:24:34] Here's a bunny. Go play. There's a Fox. Watch your back. It's been very interesting. The beings that are crossing my path and being like, Hey, Hey, Hey, ma'am Hey, and how they've been very supportive and instrumental in me taking better care of myself and the kids. I'm still doing my offerings to mother nature. 

[00:25:03] That's like outside and the elements, well, mostly water, mostly water. And my relationship with water is deepening and changing. And I don't quite know what's going on, but I'm finding it very interesting and juicy. And I feel this deeper connection, this deeper invitation to connect and no water, but I'm not quite sure how to do that within this, in this situation. 

[00:25:31] Because there's so much going on. I want to say more like before I was doing soaps and lotions and making oils, and I'm thankful I made the oils I made before I left. Cause I'm using them, but working through generational trauma is not necessarily good for my intuition and does not lead to clarity that I need to be making oils and soaps. recipes are nice, but I kind of like having a relationship with the plants I have a relationship with. And my relationship is what gets it done. But if I can't hear the plant, clearly I'm not going to make the soap. So it's been kind of sad, whomp whomp, but I'm sure I'll be back on me back on it when it's time. 

[00:26:15] So that's what I have to say about that. I'm realizing my spiritual practices are much more. Simple. If they could get any more simple, they're more simple. They're more short. And I'm also allowing myself to be guided in, in with, by other people. Because I realized when I'm in this space, I can't hear everything that I would really like to be hearing or seeing everything that I'd like to be seeing by myself. 

[00:26:43] Anyway. That's that for that segment, that's all that needs to be said. So like let's close this podcast on out. 

[00:26:53] Yeah, that's kind of short, but it's also kind of rich. It's been a lot of popping, so thank you for riding with me, through it for listening and for being here again, if you want to, you know, reach out and connect, you can follow my shenanigans on Instagram at spirituality, underscore motherhood underscore pod. 

[00:27:16] And you can just kind of see what I've been into, what I get into. It's not going to be pictures of me in spandex lifting children, but there will be pictures of my face and caterpillars and trees and strawberries and slugs. You can see what I'm into. You can also head over to spiritualityandmotherhoodpodcast.com and leave me a message. 

[00:27:42] Leave me a message. Let me know if there's, you know, Anything, you want me to tackle let me know you got a question you want me to ask the next person I'm interviewing? 

[00:27:53] Let me know. Um, you could do that by Instagram or by a spirituality and motherhood podcast.com. The next interview is with Shakara Khan of Namastoned. And you know what? This interview, I wish I'd have had more time for it because I had to get the children. 

[00:28:13] Can't just leave the children floating at school, just can't they'll get into shenanigans. Um, but the interview, we talk about her relationship with cannabis and how cannabis opened all these doors for her. It was a really interesting conversation and I pray you tune in for it. It'll drop in about a month, but in the meanwhile, if you want to know more about Chakra Khan and more how she combines not cannabis, but different plants with a yoga practice, you can check out, get Nama stoned.com. 

[00:28:47] That's getnamastoned.com. Getting nama stone com with Chakra Khan. Anyway, let me take my silly tail on pray that you are blessed. I look forward to chatting with you again soon. Peace.